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Hello Members,

I am learning SEO since last 2-3 months. I decided to start this thread just for my motivation and help myself and all of you to clear some seo myths.

Here are some details about my project

Niche : Health Niche

Domain Name : Newly Registered .com domain

Website : It currently has 300 unique posts on it which were drip feed in last 30 days. Interesting thing is that out of 300, 280+ posts are just spun posts (95%+ Unique).

Keyword : Very competitive, 400,000 exact searches

Current Rankings : page 1

I want to know if the following things have effect on seo or not :

1) Exact Match Domain - (My site is way far from exact match domain)

2) Keyword In The Domain - (My site doesn't contain even the keyword)

3) Ranking HomePage ( I am trying to rank an inner page)

4) Do not Post Spun Articles On Your Own Domain ( I have 90% + most which are just spun articles - They make very little sense but each of them is at least 95% unique)

5) Length Of The Article Should be between 400 to 700. (My article is 11,000+ words long).

Many may argue that i am just stacking up spam posts by publishing spun articles. My take is different. I am using those articles for internal backlinking + authorization Purposes.

I will not reveal keyword or URL just now but may be doing it in the future.

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Hello Members,

I am learning SEO since last 2-3 months. I decided to start this thread just for my motivation and help myself and all of you to clear some seo myths.

Here are some details about my project

Niche : Health Niche

Domain Name : Newly Registered .com domain

Website : It currently has 300 unique posts on it which were drip feed in last 30 days. Interesting thing is that out of 300, 280+ posts are just spun posts (95%+ Unique).

Keyword : Very competitive, 400,000 exact searches

Current Rankings : -

I want to know if the following things have effect on seo or not :

1) Exact Match Domain - (My site is way far from exact match domain)

2) Keyword In The Domain - (My site doesn't contain even the keyword)

3) Ranking HomePage ( I am trying to rank an inner page)

4) Do not Post Spun Articles On Your Own Domain ( I have 90% + most which are just spun articles - They make very little sense but each of them is at least 95% unique)

5) Length Of The Article Should be between 400 to 700. (My article is 11,000+ words long).

Many may argue that i am just stacking up spam posts by publishing spun articles. My take is different. I am using those articles for internal backlinking + authorization Purposes.

I will not reveal keyword or URL just now but may be doing it in the future.

3 months in the game and your already going after the health niche? Needless to say you can have IMMACULATE on page SEO, and will STILL have a ridiculously hard time getting into that if you dont know what your doing. I'm not saying this to discourage you, but I've got a friend who chose "Body Building" to be his first keyword when he first got into SEO, and he quickly learned that was going to be a pretty big battle.

To keep things positive, its fairly simple:

1. Build Backlinks

2. Keep good, fresh, unique content on there (readable or not)

3. Build more Backlinks

If you do that then you should be fine

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3 months in the game and your already going after the health niche? Needless to say you can have IMMACULATE on page SEO, and will STILL have a ridiculously hard time getting into that if you dont know what your doing. I'm not saying this to discourage you, but I've got a friend who chose "Body Building" to be his first keyword when he first got into SEO, and he quickly learned that was going to be a pretty big battle.

To keep things positive, its fairly simple:

1. Build Backlinks

2. Keep good, fresh, unique content on there (readable or not)

3. Build more Backlinks

If you do that then you should be fine

Thanks for the concern but my 30 days old site is now already ranking on page 1. (If you wanna know the site name, i can PM you so that you can be sure)

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Can you let us know how you are achieving these results? What kind of backlink strategies are you using and which do you think are effective?

I use following tools :

1) Senuke x

2) AMR

3) Scrabebox

4) High pr network (subscription service)

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I think this is going to be an interesting experiment.

But I'm wondering about your posting schedule for the number of posts published. How did you arrive at the posting schedule you followed over the 30 days? Given the number of posts, it seems like you would have stretched them out over a longer period of time (to appear "natural").

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Thanks for the concern but my 30 days old site is now already ranking on page 1. (If you wanna know the site name, i can PM you so that you can be sure)

Seriously? Not bad, that's pretty good actually. Yea, i'd like to know the site name so I can do some of my own reverse engineering. If you've gotten a brand new site to rank that quickly for a term like that, I'd definitely like to see what it is exactly your doing differently than your competitors (considering the competition is actually stiff).

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I use following tools :

1) Senuke x

2) AMR

3) Scrabebox

4) High pr network (subscription service)

Great post harry and thanks for the share. I am looking forward to hearing about your tests and conclusions.

Regarding your tools, what is your link velocity like? e.g., how many backlinks per day, drip fed, etc. Blogs and profile links?

Best,

Chad

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Great post harry and thanks for the share. I am looking forward to hearing about your tests and conclusions.

Regarding your tools, what is your link velocity like? e.g., how many backlinks per day, drip fed, etc. Blogs and profile links?

Best,

Chad

I increase link velocity as time passes. Started building about 20 links per day. Now after 1 month building about 300 links per day.

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Thanks for the concern but my 30 days old site is now already ranking on page 1. (If you wanna know the site name, i can PM you so that you can be sure)

Wow, I would like to know how this works too. Let's us know how you did it.

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Whats the competition like on page 1 for your keyword(PR, age, backlinks, on-page seo) ?

if your keyword is something like "how to shave a monkeys armpit" I`m not surprised you`re on first page with a new domain after a month. Then again ... if the competition is really stiff .. my guess is you will fall off the first page if you`re not going to keep building high quality backlinks ....

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Were those 300 posts just spun on a synonym level? How long are they?

Care to elaborate on just how you are implementing those tools?

I thought when you said newbie and health niche you were going after some major long tail but its actually 400k EXACT match searches each month?

Care to share a screenshot of the comp. analysis from MS?

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I use following tools :

1) Senuke x

2) AMR

3) Scrabebox

4) High pr network (subscription service)

Be good if you can break down what you are using each tool/service for in much more detail.

How many High PR links you hiring/month? what is the PR range? What specifically are you using SENuke X/Scrapebox for? If for profile links what links are you backlinking these backlinks?

How many article are you submitting in AMR?, whats the word count?, are these spun on synonym, sentence and paragraph, you outsourcing any tasks etc.....

Its good that you are taking the time to experiment but its paramount that you document everything to a T. After all its a experiment, and good ones are clearly and accurately reported, so the results can be then reproduced by following your guide and methods. Good luck!

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Unbelievable, Harry.

I'd like to send me the name of the site

and the keyword where you are on page 1 of Google.

Thanks for the concern but my 30 days old site is now already ranking on page 1. (If you wanna know the site name, i can PM you so that you can be sure)

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Wow! That is impressive.

Just 30 days to rank for a health niche with 400K match search per month is truly incredible.

There is one thing I in my mind that you could rank in page 1 in just a short amount of time is using the high PR network subscription service.

Is the subscription service open for public or by invitation only?

Jeremy

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1) Exact Match Domain - (My site is way far from exact match domain)

I have some experience of EMD with real world results.

In my experience if you have two sites that are equally valued by Google, but one is an EMD and the other is not, the EMD will rank higher. I think everyone knows this though. Additionally, if you have two websites that are both EMD, but one is a dot com and the other is something else, the dot com will rank higher. Also, in a low competition niche, a site with a relatively low amount of good content, but with EMD, will easily rank on the first page and only need a little work to get to the top.

Does this mean a EMD will always rank higher than competition, obviously not, but also, it is definitely a factor in the algorithm. Google stated not too long ago that they were devaluing the EMD part of the algorithm slightly. Although this makes sense in part, as a EMD does not really mean the sites content is going to be any good, in my own experiments, EMD does still count for a lot.

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I have some experience of EMD with real world results.

In my experience if you have two sites that are equally valued by Google, but one is an EMD and the other is not, the EMD will rank higher. I think everyone knows this though. Additionally, if you have two websites that are both EMD, but one is a dot com and the other is something else, the dot com will rank higher. Also, in a low competition niche, a site with a relatively low amount of good content, but with EMD, will easily rank on the first page and only need a little work to get to the top.

Does this mean a EMD will always rank higher than competition, obviously not, but also, it is definitely a factor in the algorithm. Google stated not too long ago that they were devaluing the EMD part of the algorithm slightly. Although this makes sense in part, as a EMD does not really mean the sites content is going to be any good, in my own experiments, EMD does still count for a lot.

Did your testing include testing the emd against just having the keyword in the url? I have not seem much measurable difference between

keyword.com

domain.com/keyword

in my experience. Now I have not done any head to head testing but the benefit from having the keyword in the url seems pretty strong but the advantage over it having it in the domain as opposed to just in the url seems less clear.

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Did your testing include testing the emd against just having the keyword in the url? I have not seem much measurable difference between

keyword.com

domain.com/keyword

in my experience. Now I have not done any head to head testing but the benefit from having the keyword in the url seems pretty strong but the advantage over it having it in the domain as opposed to just in the url seems less clear.

That's a good question, and in my research I have seen enough that it is clear to me, the keyword in the domain is more powerful than the keyword in the URL. There are of course factors that can play on results and muddy the waters, but for me the EMD always looked stronger.

Best, Nic

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That's a good question, and in my research I have seen enough that it is clear to me, the keyword in the domain is more powerful than the keyword in the URL. There are of course factors that can play on results and muddy the waters, but for me the EMD always looked stronger.

Best, Nic

Interesting, I have not seen that much of an advantage of the domain over the url myself but to be honest I try and do larger sites covering more keywords so it is not like I do a lot of EMDs.

Has any of your testing been recent? Google is supposedly de-emphasizing EMDs so I would imagine if this is true than the results from last year would be different from the last 6-8 months or so.

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Interesting, I have not seen that much of an advantage of the domain over the url myself but to be honest I try and do larger sites covering more keywords so it is not like I do a lot of EMDs.

Has any of your testing been recent? Google is supposedly de-emphasizing EMDs so I would imagine if this is true than the results from last year would be different from the last 6-8 months or so.

One of my EMD test sites was started before the chat about Google de-valuing EMDs, and has stayed online with no content updates and no SEO work, onpage or offpage, and even I am surprised to see it continues to dominate postion 1 of Google, above big hitters with the keyword in the URL.

So in my experience, EMD is the single most important aspect of SEO. You can achieve your goals without it, but it is SO much easier with it.

Hope that helps.

Best, Nic

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One of my EMD test sites was started before the chat about Google de-valuing EMDs, and has stayed online with no content updates and no SEO work, onpage or offpage, and even I am surprised to see it continues to dominate postion 1 of Google, above big hitters with the keyword in the URL.

So in my experience, EMD is the single most important aspect of SEO. You can achieve your goals without it, but it is SO much easier with it.

Hope that helps.

Best, Nic

I haven't seen this myself. Maybe 2-3 years ago, but Google has been devaluing them from what I've experienced. They do still give SOME boost though. But I'm not sure if I'd call an EMD the most important aspect of SEO.

Though this is just my opinion. You may have tested it more than I have. (I focus mainly on slightly broad keyword phrases for my domains and very targeted keywords for my pages.)

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