[inplainview]

GODOVERYOU, on 29 December 2011 - 21:14, said:

Lol, I just got rid of that post because really.... Maybe some people are best left in the dark...

Come on! I was just reading it, when I got distracted by your blog and the hilarious discovery that I'm mentioned there in the Uber-Sleeze category

[ARVolund]

adamcm, on 29 December 2011 - 16:17, said:

Hi all, looks like most here are saying to not use Google Analytics.  I haven't applied it to any of my new sites but do have it on some of my older sites.  These sites use some paid links.  Should I just remove the GA code from my site?

Thanks!

Bottom line is that having Google code on your site gives Google more information about your site. Unless you are 100% white hat and know that there is nothing Google will find otherwise than why take the chance? The less info Google has about you the better off you are. Anybody building backlinks is gaming the system, why give them any more info than you absolutely have to give them.

It is like giving the other side your battle plan before going to war. Could you still win? Sure but why make it harder than you have to.

[inplainview]

ARVolund, on 30 December 2011 - 06:05, said:

Bottom line is that having Google code on your site gives Google more information about your site. Unless you are 100% white hat and know that there is nothing Google will find otherwise than why take the chance? The less info Google has about you the better off you are. Anybody building backlinks is gaming the system, why give them any more info than you absolutely have to give them.

It is like giving the other side your battle plan before going to war. Could you still win? Sure but why make it harder than you have to.

This! Thousand times this! I do not volunteer any information to Google, none, nada, zilch.

[inplainview]

GODOVERYOU, on 30 December 2011 - 05:51, said:

Not only mentioned... You are the star of it. Without your contribution, it couldn't exist.

I'm tickled pink. Seriously! Contradictions make businesses grow; wouldn't know what to do without it.

[MarkAse]

"For instance, it's how they can report to you how many visitor's came from where."

Well, they report to someone, but it isn't to me....at least not in regard to where my traffic comes from.  On my sites which have GA installed, I don't spend enough on AW to qualify to know all of my organic traffic any more.  Good times, huh?

Edited by MarkAse, 30 December 2011 - 11:11.

[trakker]

angelus, on 29 December 2011 - 18:14, said:

However no traffic passes through junk load of crap links i build as profiles, ALN posts, shitty spun web 2.0s etc.. So in my case a link is still a link. There is no more information attached to it.

Uh, seriously.  Do you not see the contradiction in what you typed?  GOY had already pointed it, but I just gotta try again.

The fact that you have  "junk load of crap links"
and NONE of them are used by real, human visitors
IS INFORMATION attached to the link.

I'm not saying Google definately would use this  information from GA about your links.  

Maybe they do,  maybe they don't.   Maybe they will tomorrow.

But also agree with those who think why take the chance?

Personally, I think they are getting much the same info from Chrome now anyways,
and more everyday from other browsers, as they push their profiles to keep people logged in.

And you can bet they WILL be using that more and more in 2012.

Edited by trakker, 30 December 2011 - 15:12.

[ARVolund]

trakker, on 30 December 2011 - 13:36, said:

Uh, seriously.  Do you not see the contradiction in what you typed?  GOY had already pointed it, but I just gotta try again.

The fact that you have  "junk load of crap links"
and NONE of them are used by real, human visitors
IS INFORMATION attached to the link.

I'm not saying Google definately would use this  information from GA about your links.  

Maybe they do,  maybe they don't.   Maybe they will tomorrow.

But also agree with those who think why take the chance?

Personally, I think they are getting much the same info from Chrome now anyways,
and more everyday from other browsers, as they push their profiles to keep people logged in.

And you can bet they WILL be using that more and more in 2012.

I thought I was the only paranoid one. I never use chrome for any seo related activities. I just do not trust Google at all, they are in the business of collecting information and they never throw any of it away so why give them any more than you absolutely have to.

[ARVolund]

GODOVERYOU, on 30 December 2011 - 14:00, said:

I hope you have better luck than I did. I eventually just lost my cool.

Really??? I never noticed......

[googlealchemist]

"The fact that you have "junk load of crap links"
and NONE of them are used by real, human visitors
IS INFORMATION attached to the link."

Reading old info and this is bothering me.......

Considering the nature of large scale backlink campaigns...how on earth would we avoid this? G/a installed or not, g is still going to be able to tell that its just bots crawling the links and never a human...

[ARVolund]

googlealchemist, on 13 February 2012 - 14:51, said:

"The fact that you have "junk load of crap links"
and NONE of them are used by real, human visitors
IS INFORMATION attached to the link."

Reading old info and this is bothering me.......

Considering the nature of large scale backlink campaigns...how on earth would we avoid this? G/a installed or not, g is still going to be able to tell that its just bots crawling the links and never a human...

How are they going to be able to tell without having code on the sites?

Google can see the links themselves but they have no way to tell what the human behavior surrounding those links is.

Lets take a HPBL site that links to one of my money sites. Google has no way of know who or how many people clicks on that link. They have no idea of how many people visit or do not visit the HPBL site. Other than the physical presence of the link itself they have no information about what is going on.

Once you place that code on your site however they can see all kinds of info and track visitor behavior to see what they do.

[Fishingman1]

ARVolund, on 13 February 2012 - 15:21, said:

How are they going to be able to tell without having code on the sites?

Google can see the links themselves but they have no way to tell what the human behavior surrounding those links is.

Lets take a HPBL site that links to one of my money sites. Google has no way of know who or how many people clicks on that link. They have no idea of how many people visit or do not visit the HPBL site. Other than the physical presence of the link itself they have no information about what is going on.

Once you place that code on your site however they can see all kinds of info and track visitor behavior to see what they do.

Best piece of advice ever, wish I had woken up to this 3 months ago.

[jmr1228]

Does removing GA from a site set off a red flag to G?

[ARVolund]

jmr1228, on 20 February 2012 - 06:57, said:

Does removing GA from a site set off a red flag to G?

Not that I have ever seen

[findthealg]

Those of you that disagree that GA will be bad for your site: What is the benefit to having it on your site?  I thought it would help the cycle of indexing but you guys have scared me into deleting it...

Edited by gibberscrib, 20 February 2012 - 15:34.

[Greg Black]

What is the best alternative to GA?

[jmr1228]

I just started to use Clicky (getclicky.com) and really like it.

[raven]

plus 1 for getclicky
easy to use and set up
has a wordpress plugin to do it
and i loved it so much that i bought a monthly sub to get the extra info