[RUFiOHO]

1st post here at TP (migrated from backlinksforum)

I just wanted to say "I added some blogs to this network" and I am hoping and looking forward to this network's growth. The features already implemented are already better than ALN's - thanks for the hard work! Keep it up, I hope this thing keeps growing!

[gregmac037]

RUFiOHO, on 14 December 2011 - 00:10, said:

1st post here at TP (migrated from backlinksforum)

I just wanted to say "I added some blogs to this network" and I am hoping and looking forward to this network's growth. The features already implemented are already better than ALN's - thanks for the hard work! Keep it up, I hope this thing keeps growing!

I have just approved your blogs..
Looking forward on your comments and suggestions..

If you have suggestions on how to speed up the process, just message me..

Best Regards,

[ryanjm]

I'm looking at adding some sites to this network, but one thing that worries me is this: I believe the de-indexed blogs on ALN are due to lax standards with spun content. People are just re-submitting the same crap over and over so that the sites are filled with duplicate content. I don't know if it's possible to use copyscape to detect whether someone is submitting dupe content, but it would be helpful if this could somehow be minimized. I mean I get that most people are scraping articles and spinning them, but we need to somehow limit the number of times one spun article can be submitted. Otherwise at this point I'm starting to lean towards just creating my own private 300 site network of PR2/3's and saying forget these networks that keep causing sites to get de-indexed due to lazy people submitting endless dupe content.

Without any type of duplicate content restrictions, this ends up being like creating a sandcastle near the edge of the shoreline--you gradually get eroded and have to keep constantly building just to keep up with the erosion of dead blogs.

[Jayski32]

Just joined and adding a PR3 site.

[RUFiOHO]

ryanjm, on 15 December 2011 - 10:04, said:

I'm looking at adding some sites to this network, but one thing that worries me is this: I believe the de-indexed blogs on ALN are due to lax standards with spun content. People are just re-submitting the same crap over and over so that the sites are filled with duplicate content. I don't know if it's possible to use copyscape to detect whether someone is submitting dupe content, but it would be helpful if this could somehow be minimized. I mean I get that most people are scraping articles and spinning them, but we need to somehow limit the number of times one spun article can be submitted. Otherwise at this point I'm starting to lean towards just creating my own private 300 site network of PR2/3's and saying forget these networks that keep causing sites to get de-indexed due to lazy people submitting endless dupe content.

Without any type of duplicate content restrictions, this ends up being like creating a sandcastle near the edge of the shoreline--you gradually get eroded and have to keep constantly building just to keep up with the erosion of dead blogs.

I think a bigger issue is people were submitting UNSPUN content. Over and over. Just blatantly duplicate content.

This network required the { | } in article content or else the post won't go through, at least that is what I think I read?

[trishworks4u]

Just a couple of things on the new network - I'm very excited about it as ALN has been v. good for me;  However, I do think that there should be some measures to keep the 2 networks separate - specifically, by not allowing people to add blogs that are already ACTIVE in ALN.

I don't know how that would work or if it would be too difficult to police.  Moving the blog over = fine.  Having it in both networks at the same time = not fine.

Also, the feature allowing the build up of credits is good on the one hand as it's not a use it or lose it sort of deal, but if abused, could lead to some serious spammy activity and create a bigger footprint exposing the network.  If posts are still limited daily, I guess that would negate this though.

[NewsBeat]

We'll be joining next week   Just getting our stuff together at the moment for a move across ... we'll throw in {40|45|may be 50} domains to start (all fresh not ALN duplications) - i see that 5 posts are currently being made, which again is nice to start off with ... Looking forward to a more stable working day!  

Like most on here i'm really p* off with duplicate, stupid posts that the others have allowed - this has, and is killing the system - almost every day our VA is going through our blogs just checking for silly errors and mistakes idiots are making  ... so this really, really needs to be policed better i.e. by the users --  also newbies that just want to add a couple of sites, must go through a vetting procedure or something, along with larger accounts, they must also stick to the rules ... and maybe stick to a maximum of blogs that you can add ... to stop having "very large" users ... i know money talks, but long term stable growth is far, far better than a quick few $ ...  


My 10 cents over with for the {moment| i do speak up| i've owned my own business since 1999 | keep it simple (seriously) } ...

Edited by NewsBeat, 15 December 2011 - 12:30.

[NewsBeat]

RUFiOHO, on 15 December 2011 - 10:50, said:

I think a bigger issue is people were submitting UNSPUN content. Over and over. Just blatantly duplicate content.

Also the same {spun} content! - we've seen this happen all the time - 1 spun article - 1 post - {FINISH}

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Seriously --> it takes 4-6 minutes to scrape, spin, add author / id tag and post -- It's just laziness, and "oh i'll use this again, it won't hurt" attitude.

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{Rant|Madness|Fury} Over

[Juvv]

Guys just so you know, spintax is compultory. I talked with greg about this a week or two ago and suggested it and he put it in place a few days after our conversation. I was really impressed with not only their teams skill level, but his continual support for what the community wants.

[RUFiOHO]

Juvv, on 15 December 2011 - 13:13, said:

Guys just so you know, spintax is compultory. I talked with greg about this a week or two ago and suggested it and he put it in place a few days after our conversation. I was really impressed with not only their teams skill level, but his continual support for what the community wants.

I think that is brilliant. I love it. Seriously a good idea.

[trishworks4u]

ok, can't find the answer in the thread;  Can the keywords be in spintax to rotate?

thanks

[Juvv]

Hi Trish I dont think so. ill send an email to greg for you. ill keep you posted.

[gregmac037]

Juvv, on 15 December 2011 - 14:01, said:

Hi Trish I dont think so. ill send an email to greg for you. ill keep you posted.

Hi,

The system automatically blocks unspin content or title..
It accepts spin format on the keywords and urls field
The save feature for keywords and urls also accept spin format

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Also, the feature allowing the build up of credits is good on the one hand as it's not a use it or lose it sort of deal, but if abused, could lead to some serious spammy activity and create a bigger footprint exposing the network. If posts are still limited daily, I guess that would negate this though.

If we will limit submissions per day? Do you have suggestions on what would be the limit? 50? 100? 200? 20% of total points? or 30%?

Thanks
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About on detecting duplicate content?
Do you have suggestion on how to stop this?
Using %uniqueness eat a lot of ram and would slow the submission process.
Using copyscape would also eat your credits...
Creating a script that would detect duplicate content on all user post?? Of course it would not detect duplicate content because system automatically block unspin content and titles.

The system has the ability to track post urls and whose article is it.

Looking forward on your comments and suggestions
PS. If i have missed something on your questions, just message me..

Best Regards

[Jayski32]

This is probably a stupid problem.  But I am having trouble adding blog.  It keeps saying I have the wrong username and password?   Also where you put in the URl is to the homepage or the WP log-in page?

[BuzzBox]

It will be up to the users to police articles that are basically copied without spinning. As for duplicate content, that's a furphy when it comes to spinning. The whole idea of spinning an article is to re-use the article over & over. The more spin, the greater the uniqueness. No-one in their right mind is going to create a new spin for every submission on the same topic. May as well write a new article. Especially when you're doing hundreds of articles or even 10's of articles. Just keep the spin up around 80%+ plus spin titles.

[Juvv]

You put just the domain URl.

make sure you have XML rpc enabled too.

make a new account for the freebloglinks to login with, dont give the amdin details.

[Juvv]

PS I think that the points shouldnt accumulate. I also think that having a restraint on how many articles you submit isn't a good idea. For people like me who want to eventually submit 20 articles a day, but I have the credits and the high PR blogs on the network to allow me to do this, it would restrain me and would make my investment into the network useless, dont you think?

[Juvv]

BuzzBox, on 15 December 2011 - 16:27, said:

It will be up to the users to police articles that are basically copied without spinning. As for duplicate content, that's a furphy when it comes to spinning. The whole idea of spinning an article is to re-use the article over & over. The more spin, the greater the uniqueness. No-one in their right mind is going to create a new spin for every submission on the same topic. May as well write a new article. Especially when you're doing hundreds of articles or even 10's of articles. Just keep the spin up around 80%+ plus spin titles.

This is sort of incorrect. you cant submit articles unless they are spun, it wont let you.

[BuzzBox]

Juvv, on 15 December 2011 - 18:09, said:

This is sort of incorrect. you cant submit articles unless they are spun, it wont let you.

true.. i was thinking of ALN

[BuzzBox]

Juvv, on 15 December 2011 - 17:50, said:

PS I think that the points shouldnt accumulate. I also think that having a restraint on how many articles you submit isn't a good idea. For people like me who want to eventually submit 20 articles a day, but I have the credits and the high PR blogs on the network to allow me to do this, it would restrain me and would make my investment into the network useless, dont you think?

That's the problem with alot of suggestions,  people are thinking only in their own context, where they might just be submitting a few articles a day or such. Me, I submit a whole lot more than that daily, on ALN at the moment, but eventually on FB too. It's a case of one size does not fit all.
Points accumulation is limited to a maximum of 3 x your points allocation.. or that was the idea behind it when originally discussing the idea with Greg.