[Optimizer]

Some people tend to strongly believe content quality is the problem to deindexation while this has proven to be wrong and wrong after time.

BMR would not be deindexed at all if that was the reason. ALN worked with content that can be defined worse than bad. Google cleared mentioned they have ALN under their radar, it's not the content that causes deindexation.

Plus remember when some ALN users started copying ezinearticles 100% without a single spinnet and using that to submit?

It creates far more problems in terms of copyright and footprints than posting a 100% spun non-sense making article.

[vij]

Optimizer, on 18 March 2012 - 02:12, said:

Some people tend to strongly believe content quality is the problem to deindexation while this has proven to be wrong and wrong after time.

BMR would not be deindexed at all if that was the reason. ALN worked with content that can be defined worse than bad. Google cleared mentioned they have ALN under their radar, it's not the content that causes deindexation.

Plus remember when some ALN users started copying ezinearticles 100% without a single spinnet and using that to submit?

It creates far more problems in terms of copyright and footprints than posting a 100% spun non-sense making article.

If we have 30% posts without links and have half-decent articles with some images splattered around, we have half a chance to make the blog more valuable IMO. When you see whoreish content - it leaves a worse impact with a review. I mean I know its easy to put bullshit together than it is to put some value together - but we got to draw a line somewhere - dont make ridiculous posts is all I ask.

Edited by vij, 18 March 2012 - 02:32.

[Insurgo]

The only problem you have with images in posts is the legal side of things. You will bring a hell of a lot more attention to a blog if Getty spiders your site and sees one of their images being used without permission.

[Fear]

IMO many people fail to see the sole reason blog networks exist. They are built to profit the most possible in the shortest time possible before Google rolls out algo update to fight them efficiently.

Changing article quality / adding images won't change shit as they will be fought with with the same aggressiveness as if they would contain shitty, unreadable, computer generated articles.

They exist to manipulate rankings not provide quality to users!

And you can't change that without raising the cost per effect at least 2 orders of magnitute.

Either you choose cheap, efficient, scalable method of ranking - get domains @ post spun crap all day. Rankings rise, you count your money and repeat the whole process as many times as you can.

Or you build a network in which all articles are great and provide amazing experience to users so Google could not ban them - in this case, more money would have to be poured into articles than into domains themselves. The same time the ranking effects would be so little you would burn probably like 300 dollars a day to build a 1 dollar a day in income.

There is nothing in between.

[BuzzBox]

Fear, on 18 March 2012 - 05:05, said:

....
Or you build a network in which all articles are great and provide amazing experience to users so Google could not ban them ....

There is nothing in between.

Building a great site full of excellent info and that provides a great user experience means nothing... Google can and does crush perfectly good sites on arbitrary algo whims.. just ask a few over at WMW forum

Edited by BuzzBox, 18 March 2012 - 05:22.

[Fear]

Then there is even less reason to improve the network posts quality.

[vij]

BuzzBox, on 18 March 2012 - 05:21, said:

Building a great site full of excellent info and that provides a great user experience means nothing... Google can and does crush perfectly good sites on arbitrary algo whims.. just ask a few over at WMW forum

I dont think it means 'nothing'. I am sure such blogs provide better SEO value and have a 'better' chance of surviving. Sure, G has deindexed reasonable blogs too, but that shouldnt mean shit is equal to decent blogs all the time. shit can work - but shit has a better chance of being dumped like shit than other things because in the end shit is shit after all

PS: I like shit as long as it works, but it tends to be temporary - but then life itself is temporary.

Edited by vij, 18 March 2012 - 06:39.

[Asher.B]

vij, on 18 March 2012 - 06:07, said:

PS: I like shit as long as it works, but it tends to be temporary - but then life itself is temporary.

Great PS

[Pat]

Fear, on 18 March 2012 - 05:05, said:

IMO many people fail to see the sole reason blog networks exist. They are built to profit the most possible in the shortest time possible before Google rolls out algo update to fight them efficiently.

Changing article quality / adding images won't change shit as they will be fought with with the same aggressiveness as if they would contain shitty, unreadable, computer generated articles.

They exist to manipulate rankings not provide quality to users!

And you can't change that without raising the cost per effect at least 2 orders of magnitute.

Either you choose cheap, efficient, scalable method of ranking - get domains @ post spun crap all day. Rankings rise, you count your money and repeat the whole process as many times as you can.

Or you build a network in which all articles are great and provide amazing experience to users so Google could not ban them - in this case, more money would have to be poured into articles than into domains themselves. The same time the ranking effects would be so little you would burn probably like 300 dollars a day to build a 1 dollar a day in income.

There is nothing in between.

The idea of adding images/videos has absolutely nothing to do with "providing quality".

That is not what we would try to achieve by adding things like that.

Quite clearly these domains are not going to stand up if there was a manual review. We are not trying to fool real people who see the site, but the robots.

It seems that there is some method to detect blogs in networks like this as they all have the same patterns. 1-3 links in every post.

Adding videos and images randomly and having posts without any links would greatly change up this pattern and make it harder for whatever algo their using to detect them.

Having things like that would make these domains look much more like real blogs (To a robot, not a person).

[Optimizer]

About pictures.

Remember ELN had 1 picture in every post and it's got wiped out and got more problems due to copyright infringements of pictures.

So yeah that's just speculation that could create more problems.

[Pat]

A picture in every post would be a waste of time, I agree.

Anyway, obviously for the pictures idea to work there would have to be a huge database of images that were freely allowed to be used.

There is no way I'd allow pictures on any of my domains if they were scraped randomly from all over the place.

[vij]

At the very least, dont have 1-3 links in every post pleaseeee!@!...~~~

[DailyMail]

As I said to Greg in PM, I would like see a FBL2/alternate network, same as now but stricter rules... Each to their own what network they would use, but would be a good test to see if it matters or not in long term.

So I suggested a second network but with slightly different rules;

- Max 1 link/article
- Maybe cut down points a bit

Same as now but a lot less links being build and a lot slower montly OBLs.

I would add domains to both networks but time would also tell us if the better content/link ratio and slower OBL make any difference in long term.

I personally only use 1 link/article anyway.

Another suggestion might be to check IPs, and only allow 5 blogs to be hosted on each IP or similar.

Edited by DailyMail, 19 March 2012 - 01:48.

[ankur420420]

Hi

I registered my account on Free Blog Links a month back and I was going to add new domains for the first time to your Network but when I tried doing this,I got an error message stating that my account has been disabled because I haven't added any blogs yet

I had never ever received a notification regarding this and nowhere has it been stated till now that one has to add blogs in order to keep his account active

Can somebody tell the reason for this

P.S. I know new account registrations are not allowed but what about accounts which were registered a month back

thanks
Ankur

[qcp860]

Pat Jackson, on 18 March 2012 - 16:36, said:

It seems that there is some method to detect blogs in networks like this as they all have the same patterns. 1-3 links in every post.

Google and Bing don'e need any method to detect blogs in networks like this. All they need is a single site in a major market that breaks the trend and gets into the top 5... and then gets reported. That's what happened with cheapautoinsuranceeasy.com (or whatever the name was) and from there Google just needs to do the backlink analysis and decide to go a few levels deep and penealize all the repeat blog link hosts.

Whenever a person or a small group of people build so many links across a given network it becomes much easier to detect regardless of any anti-footprinting. The footprint is in the URLs themselves

[ankur420420]

ankur420420, on 20 March 2012 - 11:50, said:

Hi

I registered my account on Free Blog Links a month back and I was going to add new domains for the first time to your Network but when I tried doing this,I got an error message stating that my account has been disabled because I haven't added any blogs yet

I had never ever received a notification regarding this and nowhere has it been stated till now that one has to add blogs in order to keep his account active

Can somebody tell the reason for this

P.S. I know new account registrations are not allowed but what about accounts which were registered a month back

thanks
Ankur

Could somebody please answer this since its already been more than 36 hours

I have also sent an email to  support@freebloglinks.net but I have got no reply since 36+ hours

thanks
Ankur

[mofoe]

any deindexing in this one yet?

[newseo]

i'm new here, looking forward to join a new blog network.  can someone recommend a good one?

[Fishingman1]

newseo, on 25 March 2012 - 23:15, said:

i'm new here, looking forward to join a new blog network.  can someone recommend a good one?

Gosh I do hope someone here recommends the networks my competitors are in !!!

[Martinez79]

ankur420420, on 22 March 2012 - 00:51, said:

Could somebody please answer this since its already been more than 36 hours

I have also sent an email to  support@freebloglinks.net but I have got no reply since 36+ hours

thanks
Ankur

Yes I have the same problem!! About a month ago I registered and now I can't upload my blogs because my account is disabled.

I send 3 emails but till now not any answer at all.

I thought they told everyone here that there customer service should be a lot better then ALN for example.....well I didn't got any help till so far.

Anyone here who is able to help me out?