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    #1 brandonbaker

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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:30 AM

    source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57410215-93/twitter-to-spammers-were-suing/

    Twitter has had enough of TweetAttacks, TweetAdder, TweetBuddy, Troption, and Justinlover. So much so, that the microblogging site filed a suit against these five tool providers and spammers in San Francisco's federal court this morning.

    "Our engineers continue to combat spammers' efforts to circumvent our safeguards, and today we're adding another weapon to our arsenal: the law," Twitter announced on its blog today. "With this suit, we're going straight to the source."

    By working to shut down these tool providers, Twitter hopes to stop other spammers from using those tools. The tools function by providing downloadable software (usually for a fee) that lets users easily tweet posts and direct messages automatically.

    The tool provider justinlover.info says its tool can help users get Justin Bieber to follow them. "So, if you really want to, all you have to do is to seize the right moment, for example, the time when he just updates his twitter, then immediately leave him messages," the site says. "You'd better keep leaving him messages to attract his attention."

    Twitter now has 140 million active users and more than 340 million tweets a day, which makes it a prime target for spammers. The social network says that the suit filed today is intended to "act as a deterrent" to spammers and send a clear message to would-be spammers that there are consequences for violating its anti-spam rules.

    "One challenge in battling spam are bad actors who build tools designed to distribute spam on Twitter (and the Web) by making it easier for other spammers to engage in this annoying and potentially malicious activity," Twitter wrote on its blog.

    Besides the suit, the company has also taken other anti-spam efforts including acquiring the anti-malware company Dasient, using its link shortener to analyze whether a tweeted link leads to spam, and making it easy for users to report or block spammers.

    Twitter isn't the first tech company to go after spammers in court. In January, Facebook and the Washington State Attorney General filed suits against alleged "likejackers" that trick users into "liking" sites, and Google has also filed suits against spammers' online pharmacy scams and work-from-home scams.


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    #2 Wrecked

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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:36 AM

    Interesting. I hope they lose simply because I use Tweetadder, but I don't spam.

    At least, I don't try to spam anyone or anything.

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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 12:41 PM

    they cant sue me coz i dont spam :D

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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:04 PM

    It will be interesting to see what comes from all of this. I'm not sure the makers of those programs are breaking any laws. If you do something that is against the terms of service of a website you're not breaking any laws unless it's a breach of contract with the contract being consumated when you check the little box that says you agree to the terms of service. But if that's the case it is each individual user that would be breaking the law and not the people that create the software.

    This will be interesging to watch but I don't even use twitter so at this point it has no effect on me.
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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:10 PM

    Not a Twitter user either. But it's interesting and I'm wondering how successful this will be.

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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:19 PM

    It will be interesting to see what comes from all of this. I'm not sure the makers of those programs are breaking any laws. If you do something that is against the terms of service of a website you're not breaking any laws unless it's a breach of contract with the contract being consumated when you check the little box that says you agree to the terms of service. But if that's the case it is each individual user that would be breaking the law and not the people that create the software.

    This will be interesging to watch but I don't even use twitter so at this point it has no effect on me.


    Directly quoted from Twitter's Terms of Service which you agree to before signing up:

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    I'm not sure if these service providers can legalese their way out of a breach-of-contract, but it's definitely in there.

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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:27 PM

    Brandon, what Adamw meant is that the service providers didn't breach the contract because they technically never agreed to it. It is the twitter users who agree to this terms not the service providers.

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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:36 PM

    Brandon, what Adamw meant is that the service providers didn't breach the contract because they technically never agreed to it. It is the twitter users who agree to this terms not the service providers.


    This thought actually occurred to me as I was writing my last post. That's why I said I'm not sure because I don't know how these services work (e.g. do service providers have to sign up?). This might just be a scare tactic but knowing internet marketers, this problem isn't going away for a long time.

    I'll be honest though, I didn't realize spammers were costing Twitter so much money; according to this article, its approaching $1mil just for these 5.

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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:41 PM

    Twitter can do this but it isn't going to change anything. Operating any kind of social network, you're bound to be spammed all to hell. Dealing with the spam should be figured into regular operations.

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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:07 PM

    I agree with this move by Twitter. Why? Because as we all know and have experienced in the past few years, the social media companies, article directories, and the like that refuse to combat useless content and fail to implement any methods of review in their product are the ones that are utterly devalued by Google. By doing this, Twitter is telling Google: "hey, we are just like you guys and completely against spammers." This move will help make the value of Re-Tweets and followers more genuine which will lead to what? more link value.

    So what does that mean for us? Start making your tweets more valuable and stop putting junk out there! Tweet something people want to read and want to follow and Twitter and Google will reward you!

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    Posted 08 April 2012 - 05:20 AM

    I agree with this move by Twitter. Why? Because as we all know and have experienced in the past few years, the social media companies, article directories, and the like that refuse to combat useless content and fail to implement any methods of review in their product are the ones that are utterly devalued by Google. By doing this, Twitter is telling Google: "hey, we are just like you guys and completely against spammers." This move will help make the value of Re-Tweets and followers more genuine which will lead to what? more link value.

    So what does that mean for us? Start making your tweets more valuable and stop putting junk out there! Tweet something people want to read and want to follow and Twitter and Google will reward you!


    Nonsense.
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    Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:31 AM

    Lots of gray area in this. Should be interesting to see how the legal action unfolds.

    Could be a scare tactic or there could be some legal basis. It will also be interesting to see how they define terms such as "flooding", "overloading" and "spamming".

    One person's "spam" could be another person's "information." Personally I've clicked on links in different types of communications that other people might have considered spam. It gets very subjective.

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    Posted 08 April 2012 - 08:22 PM

    Nonsense.

    Good argument there my friend...nonsense? So let's hear your theory please since you are so quick to shoot down my theory.

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    Posted 10 April 2012 - 01:29 AM

    its a big shame but seems they got bored with all automated messages

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    Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:36 AM

    tweet adder review from me, devs of software confirmed they are still alive.

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    Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:44 AM

    It will be interesting to see what comes from all of this. I'm not sure the makers of those programs are breaking any laws. If you do something that is against the terms of service of a website you're not breaking any laws unless it's a breach of contract with the contract being consumated when you check the little box that says you agree to the terms of service. But if that's the case it is each individual user that would be breaking the law and not the people that create the software.

    This will be interesging to watch but I don't even use twitter so at this point it has no effect on me.


    Breach of contract isn't breaking the law. It's a civil matter (hence why Twitter is sueing and the FBI/DOJ isn't pressing charges).

    The service providers aren't the ones spamming and their tools can theoretically be used for legit purposes. This is why the file sharing software providers didn't go out of business. Wish these guys the best of luck!

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    Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

    That's very bad. Twitter is suing them for $100 000 each. Imagine that you get sued by a huge corporation for $100 000. That is some serious *****.

    So in theory, you could get sued by creating Wordpress.com, Blogger, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Typepad, Weebly, Pinterest etc. accounts in bulk, and use them for promotion?

    So all blackhatters should worry now?

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    Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:02 PM

    That's very bad. Twitter is suing them for $100 000 each. Imagine that you get sued by a huge corporation for $100 000. That is some serious *****.

    So in theory, you could get sued by creating Wordpress.com, Blogger, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Typepad, Weebly, Pinterest etc. accounts in bulk, and use them for promotion?

    So all blackhatters should worry now?


    I believe the only 'court defined' definition of SPAM is actually email spam, which has been determined to be unlawful. However 'twitter' spam is certainly an unprecedented issue. There are NO laws in any country against 'forum spam'...for instance, as far as I know. As noted above, one man's spam is another man's pick of the week. If this ***** actually goes through and sets precedent in the courts it's time for me to leave the country and move in with the Russian Spammers.... This a nation of unjust laws and retarded 'tweeters' now anyway. I'll stop spamming when google admits they are 'Evil, that's my vow.


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    Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:13 PM

    I believe the only 'court defined' definition of SPAM is actually email spam, which has been determined to be unlawful. However 'twitter' spam is certainly an unprecedented issue. There are NO laws in any country against 'forum spam'...for instance, as far as I know. As noted above, one man's spam is another man's pick of the week. If this ***** actually goes through and sets precedent in the courts it's time for me to leave the country and move in with the Russian Spammers.... This a nation of unjust laws and retarded 'tweeters' now anyway. I'll stop spamming when google admits they are 'Evil, that's my vow.


    No, Russian spammers can still be sued in the US. Quote from the Twitter TOS:

    Controlling Law and Jurisdiction

    These Terms and any action related thereto will be governed by the laws of the State of California without regard to or application of its conflict of law provisions or your state or country of residence. All claims, legal proceedings or litigation arising in connection with the Services will be brought solely in San Francisco County, California, and you consent to the jurisdiction of and venue in such courts and waive any objection as to inconvenient forum. If you are accepting these Terms on behalf of a United States federal government entity that is legally unable to accept the controlling law, jurisdiction or venue clauses above, then those clauses do not apply to you but instead these Terms and any action related thereto will be will be governed by the laws of the United States of America (without reference to conflict of laws) and, in the absence of federal law and to the extent permitted under federal law, the laws of the State of California (excluding choice of law).



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    Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:15 PM

    Ouch, not a good time to be a twitter spammer! Should be interesting to see how the case pans out
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