[NDash87]

I'm concerned about my BMR link-building and I wonder what other people have noticed. Has anyone experienced a dramatic drop in rank for your sites being worked on BMR?

I ask for three reasons:

1. A few of my sites that are in BMR have had certain keywords sink like a stone. I'm talking #1, 2, 3 one day (and for many months), and then BAM, the next day no rank at all. Sort of thing that makes your heart stop a little.

2. At practically the same time, BMR announces a temporary cut-off of new subscriptions.

3. AND at the same time, BMR announces a new policy that it will no longer allow non-indexed or de-indexed domains in customer projects, and that it's removing existing links to such sites.

So, something is going on and I'm quite worried. I'm asking the members here at Traffic Planet what your opinion is, and if you've experienced anything similar recently.

[eskaywho]

Please see the other thread. We think its related to HPBLs and their networks.

[NDash87]

Can I get a link?

[rsdunton]

I may have for one site, It's hard to pinpoint the cause though as I also backlink to it using FBL, ALN and it was in 2 HPBL networks, but it held #1 for a few terms for months, then suddenly feb 6th or so it lost 90% of its longtail traffic and rankings and then around 18th it completely tanked and is now only ranking for 2 keywords in #6 and #8. The HPBL network I used didnt have its network deindexed.

The site in question had around 400 BMR posts to it so could be that BMR has finally been targetted :/

As mentioned above, was BMR your sole linking method or was the site part of a HPBL network?

Edited by rsdunton, 21 February 2012 - 07:26.

[ChrisDH]

NDash87, on 21 February 2012 - 07:15, said:

3. AND at the same time, BMR announces a new policy that it will no longer allow non-indexed or de-indexed domains in customer projects, and that it's removing existing links to such sites.

I did not know they had said they would remove existing links. That sucks!

I have seen a domain sink recently from using blog networks.

[travman]

BMR seems to be overrated

[^RankMe]

BMR continues to work well for me although I suspect that its effectiveness may be getting increasingly undermined by algo tweaks.

[adamcm]

Wow, that's quite scary if something is going on.  I'm not sure I understand how Google could uncover a network like BMR when the posts are unique and distributes to random places.

[^RankMe]

In order to render BMR less effective, it's not just a case of "uncovering the network" but having its sites identified by various patterns that G have decided are prevalent on spam sites.  For example, a G algo might say that any site that publishes x posts per day and each post has ~150-175 words, and has one OBL, and an underlying theme can't be determined, and there is no contact information, then it may be a spam site, and it's authority is detrimented rendering the links less valuable.  I'm not saying that this is an exact algo, just trying to demonstrate that G doesn't have to "uncover" a network to make it less powerful.  Same applies to any network.

[kurtyordy]

travman, on 21 February 2012 - 07:46, said:

BMR seems to be overrated

what exactly are you basing this profound statement on?

[clickbumped]

travman, on 21 February 2012 - 07:46, said:

BMR seems to be overrated

I agree. I've never had any worthwhile results from using BMR. It takes way too much time/money for the service to be affective, and these days it's not affective at all. I mean really, how many bloggers actually link out to people in 150 word snippets that don't really say anything? It's easy to find, and G is not stupid. You're only kidding yourself if you think G can't find these networks.

[Ivan Mosquera]

I've experienced a significant site-wide drop in rankings for a site I have over 1,000 BMR posts for among several other blog networks, web 2.0's, PR's, etc. Obviously needs more investigation but it seems like a strange coincidence considering I haven't seen a drop like this since the Panda strike and all the sudden for the first time BMR closes doors to new members.

[bmsh]

Where did they say they're removing links from deindexed domains?

And what % of their network is deindexed anyway? Anyone follows his past links?

[AdamWB]

rsdunton, on 21 February 2012 - 07:25, said:

I may have for one site, It's hard to pinpoint the cause though as I also backlink to it using FBL, ALN and it was in 2 HPBL networks, but it held #1 for a few terms for months, then suddenly feb 6th or so it lost 90% of its longtail traffic and rankings and then around 18th it completely tanked and is now only ranking for 2 keywords in #6 and #8. The HPBL network I used didnt have its network deindexed.

The site in question had around 400 BMR posts to it so could be that BMR has finally been targetted :/

As mentioned above, was BMR your sole linking method or was the site part of a HPBL network?

The most likely cause is either the HPBLnetwork (regardless if it's still indexed) or ALN/FBL. FBL and ALN especially have a large de-indexation rate. If your link velocity is negative, this can impact your rankings.

Think about it. Any site that has a regular pattern of gaining lots of links, then losing those same links at a high rate - it probably flags some type of algorithmic penalty, or at the very least gets you a manual review.

BMR seems to have a pretty low de-indexation rate so I wouldn't put the blame on them before looking into the other networks.

[Myheavens]

I was thinking the same.. Our keywords dropped in the rankings as well.

[Joe Hughes]

It may be worth checking your old BMR posts to see if they are in the index. I checked 12 posts that were posted 6 months ago that are all marked as indexed in BMR. Unfortunately despite checking several times there are only 3 of them left in the index. I did this same test around about 4 months ago again on 6 months old posts and 80% of them were still in the index.

From my stats I think they have been hit, which fits with them stopping new business coming in. Despite this I'll keep using it.

[garygee]

@Joe, as you say, BMR have shedloads that get deindexed, but they still show as indexed because that was when they were checked last, which was likely fairly soon after indexing.
They don't (in my experience) show anything that has been deindexed.

[Lynch]

Well it might a dance, usually when a site drops that hard there's a reason to it. And I don't think that BMR gets your site deindexed, you can go XR blast a site and it will still be indexed. One thing you might want to take into consideration is diversifying your anchor texts. A half a year ago you could get away dropping 1k SB backlinks on a site with a single anchor and get to the top nowadays you can't

[mofoe]

We just check a load of posts randomly and it is ok. This thread is a load of BS.

[Joe Hughes]

mofoe, on 22 February 2012 - 00:21, said:

We just check a load of posts randomly and it is ok. This thread is a load of BS.

How old were the posts you checked? I think it's best to take a particular day or several days together from quite a few months back to get an accurate picture.