[irishfury]

I have over six figures to put together a network.  I was wondering if I put together large sections of theme cluster of sites with Page rank.  And allow blog post on it with only unique content and sell the service?

[mofoe]

where is the decimal point in your 6 figures and what currency If I were going to spend that money I would for sure break it off in tranches and be paranoid about c class etc.

Edited by mofoe, 20 February 2012 - 12:27.

[Ted]

irishfury, on 20 February 2012 - 10:28, said:

I have over six figures to put together a network.  I was wondering if I put together large sections of theme cluster of sites with Page rank.  And allow blog post on it with only unique content and sell the service?

Personally, for important money sites, I really like building links via high quality unique pages on high quality sites (like guest blogs for instance) because they are permanent links that count and also pass manual inspection. Then I send PageRank at them.  Those kinds of clean links are pretty much search engine algorithm proof.   And yes, I would also prefer that the links came from niche relevant sources although site relevance is not absolutely required.

You weren't 100% clear about what the network would be like.  Would the sites accept spun content or not?  How high of quality would the sites be from a manual inspection standpoint?  Are you thinking of making an alternative to BMR or ALN or what?  What is different about your network?  Could you explain what you mean by theme cluster of sites?  I think I know what you mean, but not 100% clear.

[irishfury]

Im open to idea's.  Is also 6 figures dollars lol.  I was thinking about a two differnt networks.  One with spun quality blog post then another where its ninche based theme clusters, diverse ip address, whois info, unique phone numbers, hosting etc that only takes unique non spun content.

By theme cluster I mean a group of certain sites dedicated to large niches, health, sports, product reviews so on and so forth.  

It would cost alot more but it is a service that you know would pass manual inspection provide great value to clients and be great incoming links.

Edited by irishfury, 20 February 2012 - 16:32.

[active-learner]

I like it. If they where niche specific they would stand out amoung blog networks and probably last a lot longer than other networks as well.

[Ted]

irishfury, on 20 February 2012 - 16:30, said:

It would cost alot more but it is a service that you know would pass manual inspection provide great value to clients and be great incoming links.

Cost a lot more than what?  What kind of price do you consider to be a lot more?

The niche cluster idea is a good one, but you would have to take measures to make sure that every site in each cluster doesn't have the same outlinking footprint.  If you only had a limited number of sites in each niche, then your clients would be getting links repeatedly from the same sites over and over thereby creating a pretty conspicuous outlink profile.   This would be quite a challenge.  That is how a lot of sites in networks can reveal their footprint and get identified.  Diversity of outlinks is very important.

I think you could do quite well just building another alternative to an already successful link network model like BMR.

Here is an idea for a business model for a link network.  

Build a network of aged sites with PR.
Membership would be on a per website level where clients can only promote one domain.
Client would pay one flat fee for each article that gets published.
Article quality and submission rules would be similar to BMR.
Client's article is published to a randomly chosen domain each time.
Client is only allowed to publish fixed number of articles equal to random chosen number between 10%-15% of total sites in the network.  Then that domain is prohibited from further promotions to that network.

Why do it this way?
You diversify the outbound link profile of a site enough so that the network is harder to detect and remains effective long term.

[irishfury]

There would def be management for network integrity and max foot print someone would be able to leave.

[RobertoMejia]

I like the niche idea, but you would have to build a huge network for it to work. This network would essentially be a network for each niche, and each network would have to be big enough to avoid leaving an obvious footprint.

[Logan Sargent]

Ted, on 20 February 2012 - 19:14, said:

Cost a lot more than what?  What kind of price do you consider to be a lot more?

The niche cluster idea is a good one, but you would have to take measures to make sure that every site in each cluster doesn't have the same outlinking footprint.  If you only had a limited number of sites in each niche, then your clients would be getting links repeatedly from the same sites over and over thereby creating a pretty conspicuous outlink profile.   This would be quite a challenge.  That is how a lot of sites in networks can reveal their footprint and get identified.  Diversity of outlinks is very important.

I think you could do quite well just building another alternative to an already successful link network model like BMR.

Here is an idea for a business model for a link network.  

Build a network of aged sites with PR.
Membership would be on a per website level where clients can only promote one domain.
Client would pay one flat fee for each article that gets published.
Article quality and submission rules would be similar to BMR.
Client's article is published to a randomly chosen domain each time.
Client is only allowed to publish fixed number of articles equal to random chosen number between 10%-15% of total sites in the network.  Then that domain is prohibited from further promotions to that network.

Why do it this way?
You diversify the outbound link profile of a site enough so that the network is harder to detect and remains effective long term.

I like this idea. Too many networks right now offering posts or home page links to all or most of the sites in the network, and in sequential order. This along with poorly spun content are always my biggest concerns when ordering these services.

[RideToHell]

6 figures? WTF!!

Anyways, your best bet in this case would be to build an exteremely nice blog network. Domains with age 5-7 years+, PR 4+, loads of backlinks etc.

[irishfury]

Logan Sargent, on 23 February 2012 - 23:49, said:

I like this idea. Too many networks right now offering posts or home page links to all or most of the sites in the network, and in sequential order. This along with poorly spun content are always my biggest concerns when ordering these services.

Well thats my point alot of services here offer alot but I don't see all of them being a long term solution.  I want to create a network that will last for years and be quality.  Please keep the idea's coming.

[irishfury]

TheMatrix, on 24 February 2012 - 09:25, said:

6 figures? WTF!!

Anyways, your best bet in this case would be to build an exteremely nice blog network. Domains with age 5-7 years+, PR 4+, loads of backlinks etc.

Yeah I make alot off huge corporate clients and my ecommerce sitse that I import my own product to a warehouse.
I really think alot of talent here could be pulling alot more money if they approached huge clients.  If you can get results there is a huge demand.   If anyone needs some pointers shoot me a p.m I will offer some help.

I have eggs in alot of baskets.

Edited by irishfury, 24 February 2012 - 16:19.

[Juvv]

I'd say a niche / category specific bunch of networks that don't allow duplicate or spun content, allow pictures to be embedded (somehow) and also video.

If you could pull this off properly, everyone would go bananas for it.

Also show the PR of the blog that it got posted to as well.

Maybe also limit the OBL on the front page, and also the amount of posts that are done per blog per day to like 2, and have a max of 8 or 10 on the front page.

I could go on forever about what a good article network would need. PM me if you want some more ideas as I might miss the updates on the forum

[irishfury]

Juvv, on 24 February 2012 - 22:41, said:

I'd say a niche / category specific bunch of networks that don't allow duplicate or spun content, allow pictures to be embedded (somehow) and also video.

If you could pull this off properly, everyone would go bananas for it.

Also show the PR of the blog that it got posted to as well.

Maybe also limit the OBL on the front page, and also the amount of posts that are done per blog per day to like 2, and have a max of 8 or 10 on the front page.

I could go on forever about what a good article network would need. PM me if you want some more ideas as I might miss the updates on the forum

Yeah shoot me a pm.  When the network goes live I let you be a beta member.

[attorneydavid]

I actually had this exact same idea. I was going to call it niche specific. I was about to try to set one up for real estate for personal use and some rentals.

1. You need to background check all the people who sign up. Make sure they aren't google or whiney white hats looking to bust up the party.
2. Have full time writers and sell posts the BMR stuff of using your own writer is silly.
3. Use appropriate stock photos and videos.
4. Write from a persona on all of them so it sounds realish.
5. Sell sidebar blog comment and post links.
6. Set up a procedure to juice up all the posts.
7. Limit the number of posts per blog per day.
8. Graphic design.
9. Link to authority sites like wiki and cnn.

I would definitely sign up for this.

[Eric Conklin]

attorneydavid, on 27 February 2012 - 15:10, said:

I actually had this exact same idea. I was going to call it niche specific. I was about to try to set one up for real estate for personal use and some rentals.

1. You need to background check all the people who sign up. Make sure they aren't google or whiney white hats looking to bust up the party.
2. Have full time writers and sell posts the BMR stuff of using your own writer is silly.
3. Use appropriate stock photos and videos.
4. Write from a persona on all of them so it sounds realish.
5. Sell sidebar blog comment and post links.
6. Set up a procedure to juice up all the posts.
7. Limit the number of posts per blog per day.
8. Graphic design.
9. Link to authority sites like wiki and cnn.

I would definitely sign up for this.

Other ideas:

1. Banner ads to make sites look legitimate
2. Social media
3. Limited OBL (10-20 per site)

[attorneydavid]

another thing I thought of. Try to make the platform non-wordpress. With that budget you should be able to get a script done to make it work with other platforms. It seems like every bought paid or blog network now is wordpress based. It seems like a very high percentage of incoming wordpress links could be a footprint.

[RideToHell]

attorneydavid, on 27 February 2012 - 15:10, said:

I actually had this exact same idea. I was going to call it niche specific. I was about to try to set one up for real estate for personal use and some rentals.

1. You need to background check all the people who sign up. Make sure they aren't google or whiney white hats looking to bust up the party.
2. Have full time writers and sell posts the BMR stuff of using your own writer is silly.
3. Use appropriate stock photos and videos.
4. Write from a persona on all of them so it sounds realish.
5. Sell sidebar blog comment and post links.
6. Set up a procedure to juice up all the posts.
7. Limit the number of posts per blog per day.
8. Graphic design.
9. Link to authority sites like wiki and cnn.

I would definitely sign up for this.

Eric Conklin, on 28 February 2012 - 14:27, said:

Other ideas:

1. Banner ads to make sites look legitimate
2. Social media
3. Limited OBL (10-20 per site)

Cool. I'm in the process of setting up theme cluster blog network. Might start soon. Still need some research done.

[irishfury]

attorneydavid, on 27 February 2012 - 15:10, said:

I actually had this exact same idea. I was going to call it niche specific. I was about to try to set one up for real estate for personal use and some rentals.

1. You need to background check all the people who sign up. Make sure they aren't google or whiney white hats looking to bust up the party.
2. Have full time writers and sell posts the BMR stuff of using your own writer is silly.
3. Use appropriate stock photos and videos.
4. Write from a persona on all of them so it sounds realish.
5. Sell sidebar blog comment and post links.
6. Set up a procedure to juice up all the posts.
7. Limit the number of posts per blog per day.
8. Graphic design.
9. Link to authority sites like wiki and cnn.

I would definitely sign up for this.

This is really good stuff.  My partners and I our working out the ground work.  I got the programmers already.  I have a feeling these blog networks like ALN and FBL our on there way out.  I think the only way to survive is to adapt and make it as Google TOS as you can.  It going to cost alot more but the network will last for along time.  It will be basicly generating authority sites with unique content that is helpful.  

I love the idea's in here please keep them coming.  Anyone idea's in here I like I will add to the beta when its all setup.  

Im also going to start moving away from mass backlinking for my corp clients.  Its been a rough week with these google updates.  Only the strong will survive in the future.

[Dennis727]

If I could add a few more things (sorry if there are some overlaps):

- "premium" themes. At least not the default themes.
- Add social widgets, fb, twitter, linkedin, etc
- Less than 20 obls
- Post some articles that actually pointing out to authority sites in the niche
- Limit the number of posts per day on the blogs
- Have some sticky posts
- Every blogs must linking out to different sites. No 2 blogs will have the same outbound links.
- Post some pure contents, meaning no anchor texts.
- Probably make the articles with a conversational tone, just like regular bloggers do. This way you could combine a few niches together.
- And the usual privacy policy, about us, contact us, etc

I work with this big company here in ausie, and we'd be more than happy to contribute, PM me if you're interested.

Edited by Dennis727, 03 March 2012 - 02:05.