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    #1 gtaylor

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    Posted 16 February 2012 - 21:01

    Hi Everyone,
    I've recently been setting up my first campaigns for some sites that I'm wanting to rank for using Magic Submitter (thanks GOY)! My campaigns consist of article directories and web 2.0 blogs on tier 1 using spun content. I'm also rotating between 3 profiles for all of these submissions....

    My spun content  is created from 2 articles where I'm spinning sentences and paragraphs first, than I'm doing a careful secondary spin so that it reads well.

    For my tier 2, I'm wanting to backlink those backlinks using  blogs and article directories with one backlink pointing to my money site and the other backlink pointing to the backlink from tier 1. I plan on using different profiles for those submissions.

    My question is this.... can I use the same spun content for my tier 2 submissions? I'm averaging between 100 and 150 submissions with each tier for the blogs and article directories I'm using...

    Any advice would be a big help!

    George

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    Posted 17 February 2012 - 00:55

    Yeah you can do as long as it is spun well enough. Although this being said you will only get a certain amount from 2 articles so either scrape some or write another couple and spin like mad ;)

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    Posted 17 February 2012 - 03:35

    View Postgtaylor, on 16 February 2012 - 21:01, said:

    Hi Everyone,
    I've recently been setting up my first campaigns for some sites that I'm wanting to rank for using Magic Submitter (thanks GOY)! My campaigns consist of article directories and web 2.0 blogs on tier 1 using spun content. I'm also rotating between 3 profiles for all of these submissions....

    My spun content  is created from 2 articles where I'm spinning sentences and paragraphs first, than I'm doing a careful secondary spin so that it reads well.

    For my tier 2, I'm wanting to backlink those backlinks using  blogs and article directories with one backlink pointing to my money site and the other backlink pointing to the backlink from tier 1. I plan on using different profiles for those submissions.

    My question is this.... can I use the same spun content for my tier 2 submissions? I'm averaging between 100 and 150 submissions with each tier for the blogs and article directories I'm using...

    Any advice would be a big help!

    George

    I generally start out with three articles per pyramid and then start with paragraph spins and work my way down. You can do it with two but if you are using it several hundred times the uniqueness might not be as high as it should.

    Why are you linking your tier two sites to your money site? By doing that you are skipping any protection/benefit the tier one sites provide you.

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    Posted 17 February 2012 - 04:48

    View PostARVolund, on 17 February 2012 - 03:35, said:

    I generally start out with three articles per pyramid and then start with paragraph spins and work my way down. You can do it with two but if you are using it several hundred times the uniqueness might not be as high as it should.

    Why are you linking your tier two sites to your money site? By doing that you are skipping any protection/benefit the tier one sites provide you.

    Hi ARVolund,
    Thanks for the response. My thinking was that if I used a quality spun article (for tier 2) and submitted them to the same article directories and blogs that I did with the tier1 submissions, using different profiles and IP's, that I could get the benefit of back-linking my tier 1 back-links while at the same time picking up another back-link for my money site. Should I be doing it differently?

    Thanks,
    George

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    Posted 17 February 2012 - 05:18

    View Postgtaylor, on 17 February 2012 - 04:48, said:

    Hi ARVolund,
    Thanks for the response. My thinking was that if I used a quality spun article (for tier 2) and submitted them to the same article directories and blogs that I did with the tier1 submissions, using different profiles and IP's, that I could get the benefit of back-linking my tier 1 back-links while at the same time picking up another back-link for my money site. Should I be doing it differently?

    Thanks,
    George

    Well I treat my tiers differently and it does seem that if you are doing this then you have turned your tier two sites into tier one sites. Personally it is not how I do it and honestly have not tested it so I can not say for sure how much difference is makes  but it just seems to defeat the whole purpose of creating the different tiers.

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    Posted 17 February 2012 - 07:33

    @arv - if you use 3 articles per pyramd, does that mean you split them up, sending different ones to 1/3 of the article directories, blogs, etc? or that you then mix the 3 articles to create one super-spun article, and then send that everywhere?

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    Posted 17 February 2012 - 07:56

    View Postseon00b, on 17 February 2012 - 07:33, said:

    @arv - if you use 3 articles per pyramd, does that mean you split them up, sending different ones to 1/3 of the article directories, blogs, etc? or that you then mix the 3 articles to create one super-spun article, and then send that everywhere?

    I turn it into one article. I start with three 500 word 5 paragraph articles and first do paragraph spins turning into one paragraph spun 1500 word article, then I do sentence spinning, word spinning and char spinning in that order. I can get several hundred articles that will all pass copyscape.

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    Posted 17 February 2012 - 17:17

    View PostARVolund, on 17 February 2012 - 05:18, said:

    Well I treat my tiers differently and it does seem that if you are doing this then you have turned your tier two sites into tier one sites. Personally it is not how I do it and honestly have not tested it so I can not say for sure how much difference is makes  but it just seems to defeat the whole purpose of creating the different tiers.

    That makes sense... I know that you've shared quite a bit on this topic in other threads, I'll go back re-read them before I plug in my 2nd and 3rd tiers. Thanks for all the help!

    George

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    Posted 17 February 2012 - 18:12

    wow...that must take a couple of hours, even with good tools. tbs or something similar for the word spinning? do you have that article shuffling tool that was on warrior forum? and maybe the char spinner that GOY was promoting? and do you know if it really makes a difference? I typically take two 500 word articles, already sentence spun, do a para spin and a fairly quick tbs word spin, then spend a 1/2 hr or so slogging through the whole thing, with a martooni in hand :rolleyes:, to make sure at least the flamboyantly wrong spins are fixed...

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    Posted 18 February 2012 - 07:59

    View Postseon00b, on 17 February 2012 - 18:12, said:

    wow...that must take a couple of hours, even with good tools. tbs or something similar for the word spinning? do you have that article shuffling tool that was on warrior forum? and maybe the char spinner that GOY was promoting? and do you know if it really makes a difference? I typically take two 500 word articles, already sentence spun, do a para spin and a fairly quick tbs word spin, then spend a 1/2 hr or so slogging through the whole thing, with a martooni in hand :rolleyes:, to make sure at least the flamboyantly wrong spins are fixed...

    I use tbs and then a separate tool for the character spinning . Not sure why you think it would take a couple of hours. It takes a few minutes to do the paragraph spinning. The I spend 30 minutes or so on the sentence spinning. I just cruise through the article and find sentences I can rewrite. Then I let tbs do its thing with the word spinning, pop the whole thing into the char spinning tool and I am done. Usually about 45 minutes an hour tops.

    Do I absolutely have to spin that much? Maybe not but I have found that if you do not spin enough your articles will not stay indexed. They get picked up initially but after a month you will notice a lot of them are dropped. Spin the hell out of them and they stay indexed much better.




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