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    #1 seowork12

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    Posted 12 February 2012 - 22:17

    hi

    i have an important question i have a new site 30 days old no links built to it yet i am looking to buy xrumer, scrapebox, senuke x and book marking demon my question is will google know i am using such tools and bann my site i dont plan on blasting thousands of links over night what i plan on doing is a natrual looking link volicity like 600 links first month 1000 links second month third month 1300 links and so on will i be ok or should i just outsource my link building

    i want to have this site for the long term and can not afford to get banned

    is there any way for google to know i am using such tools

    please let me hear you recommendations on my issue

    P.S is there anyway i can use these tools with out spam

    basicely i want to build links the whitehat way with out manualy building them

    #2 vilcot44

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    Posted 13 February 2012 - 01:17

    Wow, Xrumer and SENuke X.  You seem to have a lot of resources.  Anyway, just don't overdo it.  600 links along a month is around 20 a day, that's reasonable so I don't see a problem.  If you don't want to appear spammy, then just spread your linkbuilding and you'll be fine.
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    Posted 13 February 2012 - 02:55

    View Postseowork12, on 12 February 2012 - 22:17, said:

    hi

    i have an important question i have a new site 30 days old no links built to it yet i am looking to buy xrumer, scrapebox, senuke x and book marking demon my question is will google know i am using such tools and bann my site i dont plan on blasting thousands of links over night what i plan on doing is a natrual looking link volicity like 600 links first month 1000 links second month third month 1300 links and so on will i be ok or should i just outsource my link building

    i want to have this site for the long term and can not afford to get banned

    is there any way for google to know i am using such tools

    please let me hear you recommendations on my issue

    P.S is there anyway i can use these tools with out spam

    basicely i want to build links the whitehat way with out manualy building them

    If  you are planning on building so few links I really can not see a reason to invest in so much software. Xrumer can build way more than that every minute, it is a pretty large investment so until  you are ready to build a million links a month or more i would skip it. The same goes for nuke, it carries a fairly high monthly fee and is not really worth it unless you are planning on building a lot of links for multiple sites. Remember your goal is not to get your site ranked but to make a profit, if you are spending more money on tools than you are making it does not matter if  you site is #1 or not.

    I do however recommend scrapebox, fairly cheap and does a huge number of tasks that will make your link building easier.


    As far as Google being able to tell how your links are created the answer is no. Google can see the links but has no way of telling how they were made. Chances are anyone you outsource to is going to be using some kind of automation anyway.


    There is no whitehat way. If  you are artificially building links to your site you are no longer white hat.

    #4 bubbachess

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    Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:15

    Another interesting thread on Link Building,
    learning so much on this forum, and all for free!

    #5 MattW

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    Posted 13 February 2012 - 13:51

    Hi,

    There really isn't the need to invest in tools like that out of the gate.  I would recommend you stick to the essentials like Scrapebox and perhaps Sick Submitter (more diverse than Senuke IMO).  You could then beef up your campaign with a BuildMyRank and Authority Link Network subscription.

    Each tool has it's own learning curve so you don't want to drown yourself out of the gate.  Maintaining a steady link velociy is a great way to go, you have certainly done your research :)

    Good luck with the campaign!

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    Posted 13 February 2012 - 14:30

    For a website 30 days old, I wouldnt be expecting too much in terms of SERP increase. I wouldnt use xrumer or senuke for a site so young, and I think you should probably do some more research on how Xrumer works as well. Its not the type of tool you use to directly build links to your money site.

    For a site 30 days old I would do some manual link building slowly and make sure you get them all indexed then slowly increase it over time.

    If you rush, you lose. Simple.
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    #7 Jordan

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    Posted 13 February 2012 - 16:12

    Then again, if you did do a huge blast, it would make for a great case study.  Too bad you won't let us take a vote.  :)
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    Posted 13 February 2012 - 16:18

    on one hand i really hate to say buy a bunch more sites and get them established, because its easy to be overloaded with the whole 'paralysis by analysis' bit....

    but i feel there is good reason, if you can prevent yourself from trying to do them all actively at once, to establish many right now...let them start to age so they are easier to work with when your ready
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    Posted 20 February 2012 - 15:20

    View Postseowork12, on 12 February 2012 - 22:17, said:

    hi

    i have an important question i have a new site 30 days old no links built to it yet i am looking to buy xrumer, scrapebox, senuke x and book marking demon my question is will google know i am using such tools and bann my site i dont plan on blasting thousands of links over night what i plan on doing is a natrual looking link volicity like 600 links first month 1000 links second month third month 1300 links and so on will i be ok or should i just outsource my link building

    i want to have this site for the long term and can not afford to get banned

    is there any way for google to know i am using such tools

    please let me hear you recommendations on my issue

    P.S is there anyway i can use these tools with out spam

    basicely i want to build links the whitehat way with out manualy building them

    I have two main recommendations for you:

    1) Setup another website that you can use to learn how to use those programs first.  If you are worried about your backlink profile looking spammy, then especially test them out on something other than your main site.  You will make mistakes.  It sounds like you are relatively new to this.  It will take you a little while to get good at using each one of those programs.  No need to try to master them all at once.  The more experienced you get, the easier it will be to learn how to use the next new tool properly.

    2) If you want to keep your backlinks looking cleaner for whatever reason then you could publish well written articles on Web 2.0, article directories and blogs with links pointing back at your money site.  Then use your software tools to get links and PageRank to those pages on those other sites.




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